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	<title>Comments on: Fermilab&#8217;s Strange Letter &#8211; Interlude</title>
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		<title>By: Justina L.</title>
		<link>http://www.gmilburn.ca/2008/05/20/fermilabs-strange-letter-interlude/comment-page-2/#comment-10853</link>
		<dc:creator>Justina L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jul 2010 02:57:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone considered the idea that base sixteen may not refer to a &quot;base&quot; as a location but to a mathematical definition of base? Of course, no other clues to tell us how to manipulate the number 16. Logs or what...hm.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone considered the idea that base sixteen may not refer to a &#8220;base&#8221; as a location but to a mathematical definition of base? Of course, no other clues to tell us how to manipulate the number 16. Logs or what&#8230;hm.</p>
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		<title>By: Devin Teske</title>
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		<dc:creator>Devin Teske</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An article was just released on slashdot.org (/.) today mentioning a breakthrough in quantum computing, showing equations to calculate the capacity of quantum channels in respect to the 1948 theory of communication as published by Claude Shannon while he worked at Bell Labs.

Here&#039;s the abstract: http://arxiv.org/pdf/0807.4935v1

I&#039;m re-visiting the idea that the middle stanza is a mathematical equation that is significant. Most likely an explicit formula that answers an age-old question. That this entire paper is a &quot;teaser&quot; for a soon-to-be released miraculous scientific find.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An article was just released on slashdot.org (/.) today mentioning a breakthrough in quantum computing, showing equations to calculate the capacity of quantum channels in respect to the 1948 theory of communication as published by Claude Shannon while he worked at Bell Labs.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the abstract: <a href="http://arxiv.org/pdf/0807.4935v1" rel="nofollow">http://arxiv.org/pdf/0807.4935v1</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m re-visiting the idea that the middle stanza is a mathematical equation that is significant. Most likely an explicit formula that answers an age-old question. That this entire paper is a &#8220;teaser&#8221; for a soon-to-be released miraculous scientific find.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.gmilburn.ca/2008/05/20/fermilabs-strange-letter-interlude/comment-page-2/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 19:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t want to rain on anyone&#039;s parade here, but I&#039;m sure that if this was done by a professional,
they would proof-read. I wouldn&#039;t be so quick to call &quot;basse&quot; a spelling error. Pretty big assumption there.
Bye for now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want to rain on anyone&#8217;s parade here, but I&#8217;m sure that if this was done by a professional,<br />
they would proof-read. I wouldn&#8217;t be so quick to call &#8220;basse&#8221; a spelling error. Pretty big assumption there.<br />
Bye for now.</p>
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		<title>By: x</title>
		<link>http://www.gmilburn.ca/2008/05/20/fermilabs-strange-letter-interlude/comment-page-2/#comment-411</link>
		<dc:creator>x</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:05:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since I haven&#039;t seen this information posted anywhere, I thought I&#039;d help out. Frank Shoemaker&#039;s Fermilab ID number is 1586V. The &quot;V&quot; is code for &quot;visitor&quot;. Regular employees have an &quot;N&quot; (which is normally left out by default) at the end of their ID number, and contractors have a &quot;C&quot;.

I see who &quot;C.F.&quot; is (ID 2812V), but I will leave their name out of this due to the privacy concerns mentioned above.

As for Jason&#039;s post above, employee 1569V is H.C., if that means anything to anyone. (Again, I don&#039;t want to use names due to privacy concerns.)

There are no regular employees with these numbers (e.g. there is no 1586N). There are some contractors with duplicate numbers, but I don&#039;t think they have anything to do with this puzzle.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since I haven&#8217;t seen this information posted anywhere, I thought I&#8217;d help out. Frank Shoemaker&#8217;s Fermilab ID number is 1586V. The &#8220;V&#8221; is code for &#8220;visitor&#8221;. Regular employees have an &#8220;N&#8221; (which is normally left out by default) at the end of their ID number, and contractors have a &#8220;C&#8221;.</p>
<p>I see who &#8220;C.F.&#8221; is (ID 2812V), but I will leave their name out of this due to the privacy concerns mentioned above.</p>
<p>As for Jason&#8217;s post above, employee 1569V is H.C., if that means anything to anyone. (Again, I don&#8217;t want to use names due to privacy concerns.)</p>
<p>There are no regular employees with these numbers (e.g. there is no 1586N). There are some contractors with duplicate numbers, but I don&#8217;t think they have anything to do with this puzzle.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.gmilburn.ca/2008/05/20/fermilabs-strange-letter-interlude/comment-page-2/#comment-410</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 12:52:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all. I only found out about this last night but I&#039;ve read everything I could on it and tried a few things. Looking at it overall, there are some conflicting clues. The fact that the first stanza is quite narrow on the page, and that some symbols are split across two lines when they could so easily finish on one suggests that the shape and/or layout of the grid is highly significant and contains additional encoded information. Then again the sloppy alignment of the grid suggests the layout is not important.

I tried looking for more character encodings in the first and last stanzas running vertically in columns, in the coder&#039;s trinary encoding and for other numeric encodings. There&#039;s nothing obvious. And frankly, it&#039;s *really hard* to encode multiple messages in one piece like that. The spurious S in BASSE is also a dubious clue because it could be vital for lining up another message within the grids, or it could be an amateur&#039;s mistake. The way the first two tick marks of the second S are mis-spaced casts doubt on the coder&#039;s concentration at that point, but again, it could just be a requirement for alignment or another obscure encoding, designed to look trivial.

I agree with EV in comment #42 that the last stanza&#039;s positioning casts some doubt on how integral it is to understanding the message. Even the sFC thing looks a little like an after-thought.

But regardless, I&#039;m fairly sure the middle stanza contains the most absolutely important part of the message. There&#039;s a whole 24 hexadecimal digits worth of information there that hasn&#039;t been deciphered at all.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all. I only found out about this last night but I&#8217;ve read everything I could on it and tried a few things. Looking at it overall, there are some conflicting clues. The fact that the first stanza is quite narrow on the page, and that some symbols are split across two lines when they could so easily finish on one suggests that the shape and/or layout of the grid is highly significant and contains additional encoded information. Then again the sloppy alignment of the grid suggests the layout is not important.</p>
<p>I tried looking for more character encodings in the first and last stanzas running vertically in columns, in the coder&#8217;s trinary encoding and for other numeric encodings. There&#8217;s nothing obvious. And frankly, it&#8217;s *really hard* to encode multiple messages in one piece like that. The spurious S in BASSE is also a dubious clue because it could be vital for lining up another message within the grids, or it could be an amateur&#8217;s mistake. The way the first two tick marks of the second S are mis-spaced casts doubt on the coder&#8217;s concentration at that point, but again, it could just be a requirement for alignment or another obscure encoding, designed to look trivial.</p>
<p>I agree with EV in comment #42 that the last stanza&#8217;s positioning casts some doubt on how integral it is to understanding the message. Even the sFC thing looks a little like an after-thought.</p>
<p>But regardless, I&#8217;m fairly sure the middle stanza contains the most absolutely important part of the message. There&#8217;s a whole 24 hexadecimal digits worth of information there that hasn&#8217;t been deciphered at all&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Anon</title>
		<link>http://www.gmilburn.ca/2008/05/20/fermilabs-strange-letter-interlude/comment-page-2/#comment-409</link>
		<dc:creator>Anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this &quot;random-sounding&quot; msg by &quot;Shonaili&quot; there seems to be a &quot;moving&quot; solution. Ie. &quot;Rqnpsyr Segyusu&quot; might be Richard Feynman mentioned in the link just before it, so one can&#039;t use direct mapping á la X -&gt; A and so on, but the key changes. Like in first letter A -&gt; B, next one A -&gt; C etc. Also &quot;Msemqwit ssgtmc&quot; seems to refer &quot;Fermilab letter&quot;, since the links point there, but you can&#039;t replace the letters directly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this &#8220;random-sounding&#8221; msg by &#8220;Shonaili&#8221; there seems to be a &#8220;moving&#8221; solution. Ie. &#8220;Rqnpsyr Segyusu&#8221; might be Richard Feynman mentioned in the link just before it, so one can&#8217;t use direct mapping á la X -&gt; A and so on, but the key changes. Like in first letter A -&gt; B, next one A -&gt; C etc. Also &#8220;Msemqwit ssgtmc&#8221; seems to refer &#8220;Fermilab letter&#8221;, since the links point there, but you can&#8217;t replace the letters directly.</p>
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		<title>By: polyprophylen</title>
		<link>http://www.gmilburn.ca/2008/05/20/fermilabs-strange-letter-interlude/comment-page-2/#comment-408</link>
		<dc:creator>polyprophylen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi all. None of you know me, or so I hope. Just a quick thought when I read that jazz/noise post somewhere above...

We might try to establish if the message has potential meaning thanks to that phrase of
“FRANK SHOEMAKER WOULD CALL THIS NOISE”.

Let&#039;s start from somethign obvious...
Frank Shoemaker was a scientist.
Scientists hold beliefs. Those beliefs mark the direction of their scientific proceedings, but also (far too) often make them blind for contradictory information, especially in elderly age.

This message may be a reference to F.S. misinterpreting some data during his cereer as noise, or &#039;background noise&#039;, or assumption he would should such results be produced. This may be mathematical data, but more likely data obtained by empirical experiments

Sending a message of this kind to the target (scientists at Fermilab) assumes they have enough background knowledge to decypher it, especially that the first part, raw text, was decyphered without much problems (much problems= the amount of problems breakers are faced in the middle part).
The coded message might be arranged to fit a standarized form or a chart used at fermilab in certain experiments... or even a precise, existing chart, presented here with every/most/relevant only data on it, including the ID of the person who filled in the documents.

Dots could mark places on a graph, or results on a chart if matched to the cyphered message.

If my predctions are correct, there should be a day/month/year written somewhere... perhaps even precise time. This may give background to decyphering numericals in the message, which, indeed, could be meaningless unless set against a proper chart...

And if all this is false, then there must be any other way in which this message should be important to a person sharing F.S. field of interests, but NOT sharing his scientific beliefs.

Otherwise it just as well migh be an ASCII goatse or a raging lunatic getting freaked over strange matter in backwards klingon haiku.

All typos are [sic]

Enjoy my cancer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi all. None of you know me, or so I hope. Just a quick thought when I read that jazz/noise post somewhere above&#8230;</p>
<p>We might try to establish if the message has potential meaning thanks to that phrase of<br />
“FRANK SHOEMAKER WOULD CALL THIS NOISE”.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s start from somethign obvious&#8230;<br />
Frank Shoemaker was a scientist.<br />
Scientists hold beliefs. Those beliefs mark the direction of their scientific proceedings, but also (far too) often make them blind for contradictory information, especially in elderly age.</p>
<p>This message may be a reference to F.S. misinterpreting some data during his cereer as noise, or &#8216;background noise&#8217;, or assumption he would should such results be produced. This may be mathematical data, but more likely data obtained by empirical experiments</p>
<p>Sending a message of this kind to the target (scientists at Fermilab) assumes they have enough background knowledge to decypher it, especially that the first part, raw text, was decyphered without much problems (much problems= the amount of problems breakers are faced in the middle part).<br />
The coded message might be arranged to fit a standarized form or a chart used at fermilab in certain experiments&#8230; or even a precise, existing chart, presented here with every/most/relevant only data on it, including the ID of the person who filled in the documents.</p>
<p>Dots could mark places on a graph, or results on a chart if matched to the cyphered message.</p>
<p>If my predctions are correct, there should be a day/month/year written somewhere&#8230; perhaps even precise time. This may give background to decyphering numericals in the message, which, indeed, could be meaningless unless set against a proper chart&#8230;</p>
<p>And if all this is false, then there must be any other way in which this message should be important to a person sharing F.S. field of interests, but NOT sharing his scientific beliefs.</p>
<p>Otherwise it just as well migh be an ASCII goatse or a raging lunatic getting freaked over strange matter in backwards klingon haiku.</p>
<p>All typos are [sic]</p>
<p>Enjoy my cancer.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
		<link>http://www.gmilburn.ca/2008/05/20/fermilabs-strange-letter-interlude/comment-page-2/#comment-407</link>
		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(just wondered if anyone attacked/solved the cyphertext posted back above too:

 &quot;I ela ohbqeztvy avr Ivemjusg adzqvpbt akecss kbrs, epw Msemqwit ssgtmc azvkrd ca. I dhfte kscfr cs tpp twahrr ozb vlqbdmo dwym duqnsdf, pht bsmjl wf sbttd h ueoca wx&quot;

I started trying a simple manual frequency analysis on that tiny snippet but that fell apart quickly - not least because of the small sample size, but I can&#039;t try manually the full blog entry that obvious way or code for it on this PDA...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(just wondered if anyone attacked/solved the cyphertext posted back above too:</p>
<p> &#8220;I ela ohbqeztvy avr Ivemjusg adzqvpbt akecss kbrs, epw Msemqwit ssgtmc azvkrd ca. I dhfte kscfr cs tpp twahrr ozb vlqbdmo dwym duqnsdf, pht bsmjl wf sbttd h ueoca wx&#8221;</p>
<p>I started trying a simple manual frequency analysis on that tiny snippet but that fell apart quickly &#8211; not least because of the small sample size, but I can&#8217;t try manually the full blog entry that obvious way or code for it on this PDA&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Jun 2008 00:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>subsequently looking at this again - I wonder if the block of marks to the right of where I placed the pink block is simply slightly rotated as I noticed the first line includes a double space jut above/left of the pink block - thus indicating the first line could actually be 1 whole space out from that point across to the right.  as the largest change would then be at the top of the block, and a counter clockwise rotation of that block would also appear to align the right most column again, this seems plausible.

Unfortunately I can&#039;t actually examine this on the PDA I&#039;m typing this on so I&#039;m only infering this possibility from attempting to visualise the transformation and estimate the degree to which this would re-align all of the questionablly aligned marks to a regular grid.

I&#039;ve also been looking again at the last section, and began to wonder if the basse...etc part could have had a simple error which could have then propigated through the remaining parts producing a different text.  I became excited when I realised that a slight re-interpretation of the double bar breaks (and allowing the author to have put a duplicate double bar break) could turn this into barco...thinking it may lead to &quot;barcode&quot; etc...but there&#039;s no way I can re-interpret the breaks/numbers to make that actually work...pity though as I&#039;d started to think of all sorts of ways the middle section might be an encoded bar code number! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>subsequently looking at this again &#8211; I wonder if the block of marks to the right of where I placed the pink block is simply slightly rotated as I noticed the first line includes a double space jut above/left of the pink block &#8211; thus indicating the first line could actually be 1 whole space out from that point across to the right.  as the largest change would then be at the top of the block, and a counter clockwise rotation of that block would also appear to align the right most column again, this seems plausible.</p>
<p>Unfortunately I can&#8217;t actually examine this on the PDA I&#8217;m typing this on so I&#8217;m only infering this possibility from attempting to visualise the transformation and estimate the degree to which this would re-align all of the questionablly aligned marks to a regular grid.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also been looking again at the last section, and began to wonder if the basse&#8230;etc part could have had a simple error which could have then propigated through the remaining parts producing a different text.  I became excited when I realised that a slight re-interpretation of the double bar breaks (and allowing the author to have put a duplicate double bar break) could turn this into barco&#8230;thinking it may lead to &#8220;barcode&#8221; etc&#8230;but there&#8217;s no way I can re-interpret the breaks/numbers to make that actually work&#8230;pity though as I&#8217;d started to think of all sorts of ways the middle section might be an encoded bar code number! <img src='http://www.gmilburn.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the many errors in the previous post - that derives from typing with my thumbs on a PDA - I&#039;m only human after all ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the many errors in the previous post &#8211; that derives from typing with my thumbs on a PDA &#8211; I&#8217;m only human after all <img src='http://www.gmilburn.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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